Christopher Hector looks at some of the up and coming jumping sires…
One of the interesting features of this little survey of some of the more exciting newer stallions on the jumping breeding scene, is the emergence time and again, of the really old foundation stallions. Take the case of Grey Top, currently one of the more popular jumping stallions in Hanover.
For this insight I am indebted to Jens Meyer, a walking encyclopedia of Warmblood mare lines, particularly Hanoverian lines. Jens’ father was a Hanoverian breeder before him, and Jens worked from some years at the Hanoverian State Stud, Celle, before setting up his own power-house stallion station at Dorum. It is fascinating to hear him trace our modern sire back to some very very old lines…
Grey Top
The Celle Stallion, Grey Top was last year awarded the Grande prize on the basis of the quality of his progeny. Let Jens tell the tale:
“The line of Grey Top is a line I know well. There was a breeder, Mr Fritz Hagemann – he was an old guy out of the thirties, he had not enough stalls for all his horses so he kept them in a paddock. And he had an Agram mare, Akita. It was a funny thing, he drove with a tractor (When we first went to Lower Saxony in the 80’s it was quite common to see the farmers arrive at the mare show, driving their tractor, with the horses loaded behind on a stock crate) from Celle to Dannenberg, which was 100 kilometres, to get a grey, that was his only wish. At the beginning of the sixties it was really popular to have a grey. It was incredible how many successful horses came out of this family. They had no idea of jumping, no one ever saw these horses jumping at the time. But it is incredible how important these old lines are in jumping breeding today.”
This is Agram, he stood from 1942 until 1962… Agram was by Alkoven I, a descendant of the foundation Thoroughbred, Adeptus, and out of a mare by Amateur who was a descendant of the Shagya Arab stallion, Amurath, who stood at the Celle Stud.
Agram was the sire of numerous international jumpers, including Anaconda (Feudal II) with Alwin Schockemöhle and Mary Chapot, and Paul Schockemöhle’s Askan (Almhügel III) “We see that Akita is out of a Holsteiner mare, Libelle. Because of the policy of the Verband at the time, it was not so easy then for Hanoverian breeders to use Holsteiner blood.”
Back to Jens: “So then he takes the mare to Gotthard, and the foal was Goldine who was sold as a foal to Mr Melchior.”
“Goldine bred to Calypso II produces Campanile, who is the mother of Silver Dream, who competed in serious 1.50m classes in Italy. Silver Dream had just one foal, Grey Top, and then she went into the sport. Grey Top was bred by the Italian Hanoverian breeder, Emiliano Lonzi, I know him well.”
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“The State Stud bought Grey Top as a foal. It is interesting to me, how at this time, how necessary a horse like Grey Top is – he is not a super sport horse, he is a bit slow over the fences but when you see him with the modern bloodlines – and I have seen many foals by him – how good they are with the rideability and scope. It is really interesting to see, when you have known a family for such a long time, that a horse and a pedigree, needs help that comes through from these old lines. When I compare it to Belgium, they look not for conformation, but Grey Top makes good conformation and that is why it is really necessary to keep those bloodlines.”
The photo montage is from the wonderful calendar produced each year by Kiki Beelitz (http://www.kiki-beelitz.de/shop/index.php?path=Li9wb3J0cmFpdHM=)
Or we can look at the number one jumping sire in Hanover, Stakkato Gold who stands at the Sprehe Stud, to see the same influence of the old families and, in particular, Agram again…
“I have had many discussions with Paul Schockemöhle about this, how important it is to keep the old families, but on the other hand, how difficult it is because many of the jumper breeders want to sell foals, and in Germany it is not like Belgium or France where you can sell foals on the pedigree, here you have to have a foal that looks impressive at the foal shows, so there is a danger of losing these families, but when I look at the pedigrees of Grey Top and Stakkato Gold, I am really surprised to see how important they are still.”
Consider the maternal line of Stakkato Gold, and we go back five generations to another mare by Agram, Alsterröschen, and another of those old style breeders who followed their instincts not the whims of fashion.
“The breeder of Alsterröschen was Franz Luth. He was not happy with the stallions at the local Dannenberg station at the time and that is why he bred to Agram – at that time they had big strong stallions at the station, heavy old style horses, and he preferred Agram who was a lighter horse. So he said, I will breed Agram to an Agram mare, and everybody says, you are stupid, and in the end, the world today must be happy that he has these bloodlines.”
Agram and his dam sire….
Amateur I
“It starts with Algave, she was by Agram out of a mare with just a number, 311516939. Mr Luth bred this mare back to Agram and then comes the mare, Alsterrïschen. In 1980 she produces Wildrose by Wienerwald. I was there in ’84 so I knew her as a young horse. She was not a ‘nice’ horse, she was just 6% Thoroughbred so Mr Luth took her to Calypso, the first Holsteiner stallion that Dr Bade brought to Celle. I rode Calypso in Celle, he was a Grand Prix jumping winner at that time with Michael Rüping, he was a really heavy stallion, but he was one of the first ones we had at Celle who was a competition horse. At that time in the beginning of the 90’s it was really special that he was allowed to use Calypso to breed, but in the end he produced Carmen, a really serious mare. She was a bit plain, dark brown, not special to look at, and again no one tries her in jumping.”
“Then comes Mr Kamphorst from the border near Holland and he buys this Calypso mare from Mr Luth. Where he lives is very close to Jos Lansink, so he breeds to Libero. Mr Luth did not have a son to go on the with breeding, but it was possible for another breeder like Arend Kamphorst can keep those lines and really go straight ahead.”
And the Libero filly out of Carmen, when bred to Werther, produced Stakkato Gold’s dam… “In the 90’s, Werther was very popular, and with Werther we have the mare lines Marcio xx, Dolman, Amateur, so in the end, we have very old breeding, and with this old breeding, we have a perfect match and produce this shiny horse, Stakkato Gold. It was a shame that he was just ridden by a junior rider, but I thought Stakkato Gold had the talent for the big sport.”
Stakkato Gold and Jan Sprehe
“Stakkato Gold is a terrific stallion. He is a bit small in the frame, but has incredible rideability and jumping quality.”
Since Jens mentioned the most influential breeder in the world, Paul Schockemöhle, let’s find out who he nominates as his up-and-coming star, and he suggests it might be Chacfly, one of the younger stallions that stand at Mr Schockemöhle’s establishment: “He’s a seven-year-old chestnut stallion by Chacco-Blue, the mother by Sir Shutterfly – the full brother to Shutterfly of Meredith Michaels-Beerbaum – so he has quite a lot of blood, and is light, which is always good with the Chacco-Blue blood. He, himself, is very careful, very good type, quite ‘bloody’. I would say he is on the border to a little hot, but in a good way.” “He is very ambitious to jump and he has shown this a couple of times. He won quite a lot of small classes when he was five and six. At the moment he is one of the stallions in Germany who are really attractive for the breeders.”
Chacfly
Do you think he will go on to compete in the big sport?
“I hope so. I want to bring some stallions into the sport. I believe it is good that they people can see the stallions in the sport, then they can judge them better.”
What mare lines do you think Chacfly will work best with?
“I don’t really look at the lines, I look at the horse. Like I said, he’s a blood horse, but he breeds big, nice legged foals. I wouldn’t breed him to a Thoroughbred type mare.”
Once again, Chacfly is rich in the blood of the stallions that ‘made’ the modern showjumper. He has five crosses of Cor de la Bryère, four of Ramzes aa, three of Ladykiller xx, two of Gotthard, one of Capitol, and even one cross of the great Selle Français, Almé.
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Continuing on our theme that everything old is new again, we cross the border into The Netherlands and seek out the views of equestrian journalist, breeding expert, and successful breeder, Jenneke Smit. Jenneke is one of the most knowledgeable commentators on the Dutch Jumping scene, which should not be a surprise since she has been a breeding obsessive since her teenage years:
“I have been focused on breeding since I was 13 years old. I do not come from a horse-related family so I had to find out everything myself. I bred my first foal when I was 17, and I have nine horses (seven out of my own breeding) at the moment, sired by Carthago, Montender, Bubalu VDL, Thunder van de Zuuthoeve, Untouchable and Jilbert van ‘t Ruytershof, all showjumping.”
“I wrote my first articles when I was 18 years old and have worked as an independent journalist since 2008 – 12 years already. As a journalist I got to know quite a few people and have learned a lot from them. As a reporter I’ve been to the WEG in Caen, the European Championships in Aachen and in Rotterdam. My work is all about the showjumping sport and breeding.”
“I am really interested in bloodlines and make the texts about the pedigree/damline information for several auctions in the Netherlands. I have always combined my work as a journalist with working with horses myself. I love that combination – deadlines bring a lot of stress, horses help me clear my head and make me happy. Currently I have a six-year-old and a seven-year-old mare in the sport, they’re doing well with Francesca Maggiore. She is one of the riders of the stable where I (and my nine horses) are living in Weert. And I have some nice youngsters coming up so the future looks bright.”
Here is Jenneke and her foal, Priority IQ Especiale. “It’s a filly by Jilbert van ‘t Ruytershof (Numero Uno x Cartani x Emerald’s full sister = Diamant de Semilly x Carthago, so two times Carthago) out of my Carthago mare, Titia, the daughter of the Grand Prix showjumping mare Especiale (Voltaire), ridden by Eric van der Vleuten). All horses from this damline have the suffix Especiale, and since this year I’ve added the IQ so people can know that it’s my breeding. IQ Showjumpers is the name of my ‘stable’/breeding. I really like Jilbert van ‘t Ruytershof and I already used him before for this mare. That resulted in the stallion Lieveling Especiale, who was selected for the KWPN performance stallion test and I have sold to Egbert Schep. Last year I have invested in another damline, by purchasing the filly Tiamanthina van de Helle. This is a daughter of Untouchable out of Jilbert’s granddam Diamanthina van ‘t Ruytershof. So I am really happy to have both ‘my’ damlines united in this beautiful filly – Priority IQ Especiale.”
Who are her three up-and-coming stallion prospects in The Netherlands? First up, Jenneke likes the look of Lambada Shake AG, who is by Aganix du Seigneur (Ogano Sitte / Chellano) out of a Spartacus (Stakkato / Padinus) mare.
Again we find some of the oldies but goodies. Ogano Sitte is by a real foundation stallion, Darco, out of Ialta Sitte. Aganix’s dam, is by the Holsteiner, Chellano, but out of Atlanta Sitte – both mares going back to the founder of the Sitte line, the mare, Gute Sitte, out of the Thoroughbred, Anisette and by one of the Hanoverian foundation stallions, Grande. Gute Sitte, ridden by Eric Wauters, took home the bronze medal from the Montreal Games in 1976.
On Lambada’s dam line, we have Spartacus, who is out of Galina, who is a great grand daughter of… Grande.
Grande
His grand dam, Beau Monde is by Padinus by Heartbreaker and out of Ladina who is by Grannus, a grandson of Grande. Beau Monde is out of Pinechas, a grand daughter of the Westfalien founding father, Pilot.
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So what does Jenneke like about Lambada: “He is one of the most promising young stallions that the KWPN has approved in recent years. In his pedigree he has three proven sires: Aganix du Seigneur, Spartacus and Padinus. All of them have proven to be very valuable breeding stallions and that compensates the fact that the damline of Lambada Shake AG is a bit less outstanding so far.”
“He represents a small family and seems to have extraordinary qualities himself. What I like about Lambada Shake AG is that he is a very modern and athletic stallion, he has a light-footed canter with a lot of balance. He already showed his skills during the KWPN stallion approvals in free jumping and later on he is approved with the exceptionally high score of 90 points. Under the saddle he doesn’t only make an impression with his superb canter but also with his perfect combination of scope and reflexes (blood).”
“He is based at the stud of his co-owner Stal Hendrix and there he gets all the chances he deserves. He already showed some very promising rounds with his rider Tim van den Oetelaar. Also his rideability is phenomenal for a four-year-old stallion. The score of 90 points was just given only one time before Lambada Shake AG, to Grand Slam VDL (by Cardento) a few years ago. So they are the showjumping stallions with the highest scores in the KWPN performance test ever.”
“Lambada Shake AG Z was bred by Alex Gisbertz from Beek (Limburg, NL). As a few days old foal he already showed amazing reflexes on the (small) jump, his breeder showed me a video. Lambada Shake AG was sold as a foal to current co-owner Jan van Meever. During the KWPN stallion selection Mr Van Meever sold a share in the stallion to Stal Hendrix and the Lammers family.”
Aganix du Seigneur
“This is what his breeder had to say about his breeding choices: ‘Both Lambada’s dam and granddam have a lot of blood and elasticity, that’s why I used the stallions Spartacus and Aganix du Seigneur which both have a lot of scope. It’s amazing that everything comes together in Lambada Shake, that was literally all I could wish for.”
“Paul Hendrix has – of course – has high expectations and Lambada Shake AG, and has already bred quite a few mares to him, perhaps as many as eighty. His first foals will be born in 2021. It’s not so easy to predict how he is going to breed. Of course everyone hopes he’ll give his athletic body, extremely good canter and blood. His dam and grand dam were a bit small so that’s the tricky part. For now I would use him for not too small mares, although he is big enough himself (1.70m). In breeding you always have to take several generations in consideration. I hope he’s going to bring modern foals with a light-footed canter who will turn out to be very promising showjumpers. We’ll see the first ones next year, I am curious!”
Jenneke is also frank when she discusses the temperament of Lambada, since both his sire, and grand sire were known for producing talented, but difficult horses:
“About the temperament, yes they say a lot about the offspring of Aganix. Especially when they’re young. But for Lambada Shake I don’t expect any troubles, also in the performance test he showed a lot of willingness to work. I still think the performance test is quite a lot for three-year-old horses, so it gives a good indication when they show good character there.
Lambada Shake
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Jenneke’s second up-and-comer is Kitt SB (Emir R / Sam R): “From the first round viewing at the KWPN stallion approvals he showed an outstanding performance. For me free jumping says less about their quality than performances under the saddle, but so far Kitt SB has never disappointed.”
“He is very modern, light-footed, with quick reflexes and a very athletic use of his body. I think that are things we need for the bigger sport. I am not a fan of those old fashioned, scopey and slow horses.”
“Both the sire and the dam are bred by Stal Roelofs, and although they started their breeding with mares from old solid Dutch dam lines, they added a lot of blood to their dam lines and bred a lot of modern horses. Mr Herman Roelofs was always looking ahead, he had his own ideas about breeding and didn’t care about other opinions.”
“In the beginning he used to breed all the mares to the same stallions, including Joost, Ladalco, Abgar xx and Wagner. Later on he chose different stallions, such as Voltaire, Almé, Contender, Ramiro Z and Zeus.”
“Herman Roelofs has always been very selective when it comes to x-rays and performances in showjumping. That resulted in a high level breeding with very sound horses.”
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“A few years ago all his horses were sold in an auction and that’s when the brothers Marthijs and Leo Brouwer bought quite a few horses. Including Emir R, the sire of Kitt SB. Before that auction they already bought a part of Namelus R, who they still have at stud and they have other Roelofs stallions available through frozen semen. They probably also purchased Kitt SB’s dam in this auction, but I am not sure about that.”
“Just like his dam and granddam, Kitt SB is quite small (1.64m). You see that a lot in the Stal Roelofs breeding. So I would use him for a bit bigger/longer mares who can improve when it comes to reflexes, light-footedness and canter. I have seen some foals of Kitt SB and they are all very pretty, nice heads and athletic conformation. So I would say: so far, so good.”
“In the stallion competition Kitt SB showed some really good rounds, sometimes he was just a bit out of luck and sometimes he jumps a bit too much. But he also was an overachiever in the KWPN performance test so I believe it’s in his nature. Kitt SB is totally different than his father, Emir R. Emir is performing well with Rolf-Göran Bengtsson, but for me he is always a bit a slow, old-fashioned horse. But his offspring seems to have a lot of quality and more blood so that’s very positive about him. The Brouwer brothers also have another very talented, small but blood-type Emir R-son for breeding: Little London SB.”
Emir R
Jenneke’s third selection in her trio of up-and-coming jumping sires is Jardonnay.
Jardonnay VDL
Here’s what the VDL website has to say about this young stallion: Jardonnay’s pedigree exemplifies performance breeding. Sire, Kannan, has been one of the world’s best producers of show jumpers. Progeny include Quabri de l’Isle, Quorida de Treho, Molly Malone V, Diva II and previously Olympic champion Nino des Buissonnets. The influence of the ‘Preferrent’ stallion Indoctro has been huge among these offspring, as well as the stamp of great-grandsire Lux – regularly sought when breeding great show jumpers.
The combination of the powerful Kannan with the beautiful mare, Duzella (dam of Jardonnay VDL) seems to be outstanding. She, herself, is a celebrity as well. In 2011 Duzella was the Dutch Champion of the 3-year old mares in Ermelo. One year later, Duzella’s sister, Ella, was the Brabant Province Champion mare further confirming this damline. Jardonnay’s grandam, Uzella, was awarded ‘Keur’ and ‘Preferent’ in addition to producing the 1.45m show jumper Bocelli ridden by Guy Goosen. Great-granddam, Ozella produced Dubai, a gelding by Cardento who is performing at Grand Prix level with Mavis Spencer. The 1.50m show jumper Tavarone is another Ozella son.
Designated ‘Champion’ of the 2017 KWPN stallion show in ‘s-Hertogenbosch, Jardonnay VDL went on to prove his quality receiving the KWPN license. Scoring 84 points in the KWPN Stallion Test, the scores for scope, canter and reflexes were awarded 8.5, with the same for rideability, dedication and talent as a showjumper. Jenneke makes the point that her third stallion is very different from her first two selections:
“Jardonnay is a different type of horse from Kitt SB and Lambada Shake AG Z, two really modern and light horses. Jardonnay shows a lot of power and scope, just like what we can expect from a son of Kannan.”
“I interviewed his breeders a couple of months ago and was impressed by the good horses that they’ve bred out of this small damline. We also had some horses out of this damline in our stable, they had quality too.”
“Jardonnay VDL is currently jumping impressive rounds with Jur Vrieling. Okay, he is a magician (the rider), but I really believe in Jardonnay’s potential. Also his full brother, one year older, Ikannan V G is making a big impression. This spring he was jumping excellent rounds in the Sunshine Tour. Both Ikannan and Jardonnay have a big, powerful canter and a lot of scope on the jump. The rideability seems to be good and Jardonnay VDL is always trying his best.”
“He is six years old so his oldest offspring were born in 2018. I have seen some nice foals, good conformation and canter. His first sons will make their appearance at the first round viewing of the KWPN stallion approvals this winter so I look forward to that.”
“I think and hope he gives his good type, canter and scope. I would dare to use him for a bit smaller, blood-type mares, partly because all horses out of his damline are big enough. Besides the size, also good temperament, good x-rays and quality on the jump (including scope) are anchored in this damline. For me that contributes to the fact that Jardonnay VDL is a very promising stallion. It would be nice if we finally have a champion stallion that really turns out to be a superstar in sport and breeding. Most others have disappointed so far…”
Jenneke is no doubt referring to previous KWPN licensing champions like Elion V, Durrant, Boss and Hamilton, none of whom have made it to 1.50m level after their moment of glory at the licensing. As has been noted on several occasions, if you are looking for a jumper, and for that matter, a sire, the odds are better if you look at the ones that failed than the ones that won their licensing…
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I suggested to Ybe van der Lageweg that Jardonnay was perhaps not the most modern type, more an old fashioned power stallion…
“Old fashioned is maybe a little strong – he is a modern type but a little bit stronger. He was the champion at the stallion show, and then he did a good test, 80/ 81, something like that. He’s a very cool horse, very good brain, and he passes this on to his children. I have never had a stallion that so many breeders have said to me, ‘I have a foal by him, and it has such a nice character’, that really stands out.”
Do you think he will go on to be a Grand Prix competitor?
“I think so. He is a little bit late in his body, not a spectacular young horse but a good young horse. He normally always jumps clean, has scope enough, he’s a little bit like most of the Kannans, the older they get, the better they are, as young horses they are not spectacular, but they do a good job. He himself, doesn’t make mistakes, he doesn’t have fences down, he’s careful and he’s easy to ride. When he was a three-year-old, he was already like a five-year-old. He accepts everything, wants to do everything.”
What mares do you think he will cross best with?
“Not the short ones, and he needs a little bit of blood in the mare.”
Eldorado
One stallion that is currently making waves is Eldorado vd Zeshoek TN, and one of his big fans is my colleague, and keen showjumping breeder and student of bloodlines, Gemma Alexander:
“I really think he is going to be the ‘next big thing’. In the Al Shaqab Grand Prix last year his progeny went one/two – Killer Queen VDM (out of a For Pleasure mare) with Daniel Deusser won while Elektric Blue P with Max Kühner was second. Both mares ARE only nine and just starting out at five-star level. Electric Blue P is also out of a For Pleasure mare, but this time out of Derly Chin de Muze, a grand-daughter of the famed foundation mare at Joris Brabander’s stud, Qerly Chin.”
Killer Queen
“Killer Queen won a big class at Aachen too, and Daniel said in the press release he thought it was possibly his best horse yet. They are all fairly plain, big, somewhat coarse bays with very little ‘bling’. But my god, can they jump!”
Jan Greve was for a long time the Dutch team vet, but he is also one of the most successful sporthorse breeders in the world. His stud, De Watermolen has been home to a succession of jumping stallions, the most famous of which was Voltaire (another licensing failure!), but Jan has always been on the lookout for the outcross, and it was he who brought the English Derby winner, Julio Mariner to Holland.
At the beginning of 2015, Jan’s son, Willem Greve took over the reins of Eldorado van de Zeshoek and immediately won the Grand Prix of Roosendaal. According to Willem: “Eldorado van de Zeshoek has unlimited scope and with his power he can jump all the classes in the world. Thereby he is competitive, so I’m very happy to have him in my stable!”
What Jan Greve think of the horse as a sire?
“Eldorado is a very strong horse, very scopey, he needs a blood mare and he can give her the scope. She gives the brains, and he the scope. I must say he breeds well, we saw him in the sport, but now in the breeding, he is breeding very well. The main quality of his progeny is the scope, there is no fence too big or too high – if the mother gives a little bit of quality, then it is perfect. He would fit very well in Australia with some blood horses…”
Million Dollar
Let’s finish with another of the hot youngsters, Million Dollar, also out of the Qerly Chin line, and, in another of the signs of the times, born in Belgium, but welcomed with open arms by the Holstein Verband. This is how their website celebrated his arrival:
“With first information arising from Belgium about a tremendously jumping 3-year-old stallion from the dam line of Qerly Chin in spring 2015, the persons in charge were immediately interested when the Holsteiner Verband was offered this 3-year-old stallion by Plot Blue-Vigo d’Arsouilles-Cento from the successful dam line bred by Joris von Brabander.”
“But wouldn’t the produce of these three stallions be too heavy for breeding modern high-performance horses? An inspection of the stallion at his breeder’s stable answered many questions. The stallion displaying the colourful markings of his sire Plot Blue, and a still youthful appearance was anything but heavy. His movement was highly interesting, with an outstandingly regular, very ground-covering walk, a trot with good knee action, and a very efficient canter, powerful and with excellent carriage from behind. The free jumping proved more than convincing, very much to the purpose, and very controlled, but on the same hand extremely careful, with a good bascule, excellent, bouncy push-off and the ability to be expected from his bloodline.”
“His bloodline is characterised by an accumulation of sport performance of rare quality and concentration. His second dam, Daytona de Muze, was successful in jumper classes at 1.60m under Belgian rider Jody Bosteels and has been sold to the USA since. His third dam, Wallon de Muze, was successfully competed under Michel Hécart (1.60 m), like her full sister, Walnut de Muze, under Harrie Smolders. His fourth dam, Qerly Chin by Chin Chin was successfully shown internationally by Eric Lamaze.”
“Million Dollar’s family is described by its founder Joris de Brabander as follows: ‘The horses from this line have good looks and good movement. They are easily ridden and have been demonstrating their performance in competition at international level for generations.’
Million Dollar with Jos Lansink and Frank Schuttert
Million Dollar was purchased by the Holsteiner Verband in spring 2015 and licensed at Zangersheide in April 2015. He was 30-day tested at Schlieckau in December 2015 and graded 8.25 for rideability and 9.75 for jumping ability. He has been approved for the Holsteiner breeding programme at the Elmshorn licensing in January 2016.”
Million Dollar has been placed in the stable of Jos Lansink where he is being introduced to competition by Frank Schuttert. Equestrian journalist, Adriana van Tilberg asked Jos, what are Million Dollar’s strengths? “I think it’s his overall quality. He’s just got this presence. He has this super character and is good to ride. Even though we can’t predict the level he is going to jump in the end, he has got many good qualities. He definitely fulfils two qualifications, considering his character and good rideability. These horses really tend to go far.”
Many thanks to all the people who have contributed to this survery – CH
Want to see Million Dollar in action? https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=20&v=gorFAO4R3II&feature=emb_logo
